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Re: ? Lowell
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Posted by Lowell on December 07, 2001 at 00:19:55:
The problem with answering that question, Petra, is that one has to define what a "success" is. Without a satisfactory definition of that, anything said about the "number" or "percentage" of successes is not very useful. It seems to me that the criteria for success could be determined by a discussion among members of this board. Once it is has been determined what constitutes a successful forecast/prediction, then it might be possible to answer your question. It is also then necessary to consider the number of "successful hits", the number of misses and the number of false alarms - i.e. predictions for which no event coincided. This is another topic for conversation for this board. What is an appropriate percentage of forecasts which must be "successful" before the method is considered useful or successful. Furthermore, what is an inappropriate number of false alarms and misses to cause the method to be dismissed as unreliable? On a personal note, I think that Don has beat the odds on too many forecasts with too few misses and false alarms to have his method dismissed. It certainly seems to me that the statistics are in his favor at this time. His method does seem to consistently be able to pick the approximate time, magnitude range and location of earthquake in California and other areas of the western U.S., and that is a remarkable thing, given the abyssmal record of many previous attempts by well-educated people to do that. He is not always perfect, some events he misses and he has had false alarms, but these are much fewer than the forecasts that appear to describe real events - however success may be described. I would encourage you, Cathryn and Don (and others who are working with Don to fine tune the forecasts - like 2-cents, Chris, and EQF among others) to continue along the same general path. It looks like you may be getting somewhere. At least I haven't seen a long string of negative comments about earthquake prediction in the past several months on this board.
Follow Ups:
● Re: ? Lowell - Cut To The Chase - Petra Challus 11:47:00 - 12/7/2001 (11702) (0)
● False Positives - bobshannon.org 05:02:27 - 12/7/2001 (11662) (1)
● Re: False Positives - Lowell 07:07:55 - 12/7/2001 (11663) (2)
● Re: False Positives - Roger Hunter 11:35:19 - 12/7/2001 (11701) (2)
● Re: False Positives - bobshannon.org 17:11:02 - 12/7/2001 (11724) (1)
● Re: False Positives - Roger Hunter 17:39:01 - 12/7/2001 (11730) (0)
● Re: False Positives - Lowell 15:28:38 - 12/7/2001 (11718) (3)
● Re: False Positives - bobshannon.org 17:17:09 - 12/7/2001 (11726) (2)
● Re: False Positives - bobshannon.org 23:08:03 - 12/7/2001 (11739) (0)
● Re: False Positives - Roger Hunter 17:44:06 - 12/7/2001 (11732) (0)
● definitions - Roger Hunter 16:58:07 - 12/7/2001 (11723) (0)
● Re: False Positives - Canie 16:18:06 - 12/7/2001 (11721) (1)
● Re: False Positives - bobshannon.org 17:20:05 - 12/7/2001 (11727) (0)
● Re: False Positives - bobshannon.org 08:22:28 - 12/7/2001 (11676) (1)
● Re: False Positives - Lowell 11:56:19 - 12/7/2001 (11705) (1)
● Re: False Positives - Roger Hunter 12:32:14 - 12/7/2001 (11709) (1)
● Re: False Positives - bobshannon.org 17:24:01 - 12/7/2001 (11728) (2)
● Re: False Positives - Canie 19:53:51 - 12/7/2001 (11736) (1)
● Re: False Positives - bobshannon.org 23:16:56 - 12/7/2001 (11740) (0)
● Re: False Positives - Roger Hunter 17:50:22 - 12/7/2001 (11734) (0)
● Re: ? Lowell - Don In Hollister 02:12:05 - 12/7/2001 (11659) (1)
● Re: ? Lowell - Lowell 07:10:25 - 12/7/2001 (11664) (0)
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