cold facts aren't always friendly
Posted by John Vidale on February 18, 2003 at 19:49:19:

Petra,

We are arguing without a common ground. I'm sure your friends are warm, loyal and likeable people, probably more so than I am.

But saying earthquakes are predictable does not make
them so. They may be, they may not be, only time will
tell. Maybe geoForecasters will show earthquakes to
be predictable, although there is no evidence for that on the new site.

We can examine the effect of tides, and tidal forces do
not much influence when earthquakes occur. Cuddly
as Berkland must be, he's not right about tides, and we
have known that for many decades, since before he
came on the scene.

You say that Lowell "looks objectively at everything
and see's many correlations." However, from his
published work, which is almost entirely abstracts, we
scientists see someone who has never documented
a single one of his ideas to the point of knowing
whether it was right. His SRL editorial was nicely
written and charmingly idealistic, but not evidence for
the predictability of earthquakes.

If this board is about earthquake prediction, perhaps
posters should be tolerant of people seeking the right
answer.

John


Follow Ups:
     ● Re: cold facts aren't always friendly - Petra Challus  20:34:13 - 2/18/2003  (18064)  (1)
        ● different approaches - John Vidale  21:25:09 - 2/18/2003  (18067)  (1)
           ● Re: different approaches - Petra Challus  22:38:35 - 2/18/2003  (18068)  (1)
              ● practicality - John Vidale  23:18:14 - 2/18/2003  (18069)  (1)
                 ● Re: practicality - Canie  12:04:37 - 2/19/2003  (18080)  (1)
                    ● Geoforecaster - chris in suburbia  13:44:56 - 2/20/2003  (18088)  (1)
                       ● correlations - John Vidale  14:48:32 - 2/20/2003  (18089)  (2)
                          ● Re: Scoring - Canie  23:00:41 - 2/20/2003  (18092)  (1)
                             ● automatic hits from loose scoring - John Vidale  06:38:58 - 2/21/2003  (18096)  (0)
                          ● I meant only geoF, not Don's work - John Vidale  15:11:31 - 2/20/2003  (18090)  (1)
                             ● Re: I meant only geoF, not Don's work - EQF  22:40:17 - 2/20/2003  (18091)  (0)
     ● Re: cold facts aren't always friendly - Don in Hollister  19:56:53 - 2/18/2003  (18063)  (1)
        ● facts are useful - John Vidale  20:40:41 - 2/18/2003  (18065)  (0)