Not quibbling at all
Posted by Ara on January 21, 2005 at 01:10:59:

John,

You wrote, gThe lack of a strong earthquake-tide correlation indicates there is some precursory deformation, as suggested by rate-and-state-friction, that is more important than the tectonic loading and tidal stresses in the last few days before failure. This is the reasoning behind our statementch

That is very good reasoning, but it does not make a hypothesis, let alone a theory. I asked, gWhat observable phenomena does this theory say WILL happen so that the theory can be validated or scrapped?h The answer seems to be that this gtheoryh does not predict any particular observable phenomenon at all, and so can neither be validated nor repudiated.

{"seems to serve no other purpose than PR" is a rather insulting way to state what seems like a misunderstanding.}

Certainly, I never intend to be insulting with remarks. In this case, I was referring to the item linked at the top by Don: Public Information Office, University of California-Los Angeles, October 21, 1998. Calling something that is no more than speculation a gtheoryh makes a good impression on the public. That is PR.

The article further invites misunderstanding:
gThis theory, developed by Jim Dieterich of the U.S. Geological Survey and others, gives some hope to those who think earthquakes can be predictedch

My comments were fair and accurate.

Ara


Follow Ups:
     ● our statement - John Vidale  07:05:12 - 1/21/2005  (24503)  (2)
        ● The ebb and flow of untestable ideas  - Ara  06:05:50 - 1/22/2005  (24510)  (2)
           ● angels dancing on the head of a pin - John Vidale  08:02:30 - 1/22/2005  (24512)  (1)
              ● Pin heads dancing with angels - Ara  09:39:08 - 1/22/2005  (24513)  (2)
                 ● you're drifted into offensive remarks - John Vidale  16:45:19 - 1/22/2005  (24518)  (1)
                    ● You have drifted into excuses - Ara  18:17:21 - 1/22/2005  (24519)  (0)
                 ● Re: Pin heads dancing with angels - Canie  11:10:35 - 1/22/2005  (24516)  (1)
                    ● On the criticism - Ara  18:33:04 - 1/22/2005  (24520)  (1)
                       ● really? - John Vidale  18:54:27 - 1/22/2005  (24521)  (1)
                          ● Oh come on.  - Ara  20:45:25 - 1/22/2005  (24522)  (1)
                             ● I get it - John Vidale  21:00:09 - 1/22/2005  (24523)  (1)
                                ● I did not get it - Ara  01:56:43 - 1/23/2005  (24526)  (0)
           ● grammar correction - Ara  06:18:02 - 1/22/2005  (24511)  (1)
              ● Insults - Cathryn  08:09:02 - 1/23/2005  (24533)  (2)
                 ● Aggravation - Ara  23:50:27 - 1/23/2005  (24558)  (1)
                    ● clear illustration of Ara's clarity of thought - John Vidale  01:50:28 - 1/24/2005  (24559)  (1)
                       ● Ara's clear clarity - Ara  02:27:28 - 1/24/2005  (24560)  (1)
                          ● Re: Ara's clear clarity - Cathryn  08:07:11 - 1/24/2005  (24561)  (1)
                             ● Re:respect - Ara  16:50:40 - 1/24/2005  (24567)  (1)
                                ● Re:respect - Cathryn  19:42:29 - 1/24/2005  (24573)  (1)
                                   ● very clear - John Vidale  21:26:32 - 1/24/2005  (24577)  (1)
                                      ● Re: very clear - Cathryn  04:45:57 - 1/25/2005  (24585)  (0)
                 ● thanks - John Vidale  08:32:51 - 1/23/2005  (24541)  (1)
                    ● Re: thanks - Cathryn  08:44:13 - 1/23/2005  (24542)  (0)
        ● For John And Ara. Speculation And Theory - Don in Hollister  13:03:06 - 1/21/2005  (24505)  (2)
           ● Re: For John And Ara. Speculation And Theory - Cathryn  08:18:45 - 1/23/2005  (24537)  (0)
           ● You left out hypothesis n/t - Roger Hunter  13:11:50 - 1/21/2005  (24506)  (1)
              ● Re: You left out hypothesis n/t - Canie  17:53:15 - 1/21/2005  (24508)  (2)
                 ● Re: You left out hypothesis n/t - Cathryn  08:22:53 - 1/23/2005  (24538)  (0)
                 ● Re: You left out hypothesis n/t - Roger Hunter  20:20:31 - 1/21/2005  (24509)  (1)
                    ● Re: You left out hypothesis n/t - Cathryn  08:25:48 - 1/23/2005  (24539)  (0)