exaggerated claims, global warming
Posted by heartland chris on May 21, 2007 at 07:10:18:

Yo..the rate of earthquake posts on new stuff has been slow for months, and I read a post by Canie to say that other earth-related science was fair game, so here I go again. This is an email I just sent to "urban sister" and "heartland wife":

I finally checked the link on climate change. It is not real clear from that link what Allegre thinks. The article says we should be doing something about it, proposing solutions, carbon sequestration, rather than just holding confereces. So, he must still believe it is a problem...just not as big a problem as many others think. I am going to start posting on the earthquake site (which can include other science) my concerns about over-hyping this. As we've discussed a few months ago in email, I don't think the Greenland ice cap can entirely melt this century....so sea level rise from this may be a couple of feet rather than 20. It may indeed become doomed to melt soon though. I have doubts about whether the West Antarctic Ice sheet will melt this century (I think that is an additional 20 feet of sea level, but am not sure). Meaning...I don't know if it will melt significantly or not. The Antarctic peninsula is part if West Antarctica, and there is melting there, but it is skinny and stick out north...so the ice volume on it is not huge.

I am particularly interested in the following problem. If worldwide temperature has gone up 1 deg F/0.6 deg C in the last 50 years, and there are big affects in the Arctic, as models have long predicted, then the rest of the world must have warmed less. I saw a story at the end of the national news last week (ABC?) about Pikas going extinct mountain by mountain...as it gets warmer, they move up the mountain, until there is no mountain left. They reported it like it had already happened on a fair amount of Colorado mountains. But, 0.5 deg C is only about 50 m of vertical (dry adiabatic lapse rate) to a bit less than 100 m. This should not be affecting the Pikas much yet...unless the temperature increase is greater in the mountains. The operative word is "yet".

Another example is the Save the Bay new letter/magazine, that said Bay water levels have gone up 11 inches the past century. This is true, but it is the local (relative) sea level rise. Rhode Island is sinking, so part of this (half) is the sinking rather than global sea level rise.
Chris



Follow Ups:
     ● Re: exaggerated claims, global warming  - heartland chris  07:16:11 - 5/21/2007  (71875)  (2)
        ● Re: exaggerated claims, global warming  - Mike Williams in Arroyo Grande  07:03:24 - 5/22/2007  (71883)  (1)
           ● Re: exaggerated claims, global warming  - heartland chris  15:50:02 - 5/22/2007  (71885)  (1)
              ● Re: exaggerated claims, global warming  - Mike Williams in Arroyo Grande  19:48:10 - 5/22/2007  (71886)  (2)
                 ● Re: exaggerated claims, global warming  - Skywise  20:24:25 - 5/24/2007  (71905)  (2)
                    ● Re: exaggerated claims, global warming  - Mike Williams in Arroyo Grande  07:04:14 - 5/25/2007  (71907)  (1)
                       ● Re: exaggerated claims, global warming  - Skywise  22:31:48 - 5/25/2007  (71916)  (0)
                    ● Re: exaggerated claims, global warming  - heartland chris  06:45:29 - 5/25/2007  (71906)  (2)
                       ● Re: exaggerated claims, global warming  - Skywise  22:27:46 - 5/25/2007  (71914)  (0)
                       ● Re: exaggerated claims, global warming  - Mike Williams in Arroyo Grande  07:31:03 - 5/25/2007  (71908)  (2)
                          ● deep time - heartland chris  05:21:43 - 5/26/2007  (71917)  (1)
                             ● Re: deep time...other view - heartland chris  06:54:44 - 5/26/2007  (71920)  (1)
                                ● Re: deep time...other view - Mike Williams in Arroyo Grande  09:32:42 - 5/26/2007  (71922)  (2)
                                   ● Lewis Black (off topic) - heartland chris  06:08:59 - 5/27/2007  (71926)  (1)
                                      ● Re: Lewis Black (off topic) - Mike Williams in Arroyo Grande  07:35:22 - 5/27/2007  (71927)  (1)
                                         ● Iraq (off topic) - heartland chris  08:15:00 - 5/28/2007  (71930)  (2)
                                            ● Re: Iraq (off topic) - Mike Williams in Arroyo Grande  07:16:09 - 5/29/2007  (71934)  (0)
                                            ● Re: Iraq (off topic) - Skywise  13:36:53 - 5/28/2007  (71932)  (1)
                                               ● Re: Iraq (off topic) - Mike Williams in Arroyo Grande  10:11:57 - 5/29/2007  (71935)  (1)
                                                  ● Re: Iraq (off topic) - Skywise  21:59:18 - 5/29/2007  (71936)  (1)
                                                     ● Back to predictions - Roger Hunter  22:51:00 - 5/29/2007  (71937)  (1)
                                                        ● Re: Back to predictions - Skywise  23:06:10 - 5/29/2007  (71938)  (0)
                                   ● Re: deep time...other view - Skywise  20:35:29 - 5/26/2007  (71925)  (0)
                          ● Re: exaggerated claims, global warming  - Skywise  22:24:45 - 5/25/2007  (71913)  (1)
                             ● Re: exaggerated claims, global warming  - Mike Williams in Arroyo Grande  06:16:07 - 5/26/2007  (71919)  (1)
                                ● Re: exaggerated claims, global warming  - Skywise  20:31:37 - 5/26/2007  (71924)  (1)
                                   ● Re: exaggerated claims, global warming  - Mike Williams in Arroyo Grande  07:37:38 - 5/28/2007  (71929)  (1)
                                      ● Re: exaggerated claims, global warming  - Skywise  13:41:21 - 5/28/2007  (71933)  (0)
                 ● Article - Mike Williams in Arroyo Grande  20:06:44 - 5/22/2007  (71887)  (0)
        ● question: how fast can Greenland melt? - heartland chris  07:23:13 - 5/21/2007  (71876)  (0)