I will apologize before the fact at this point - This is the only place I can truly voice my opinions - I will put on that flame proof suit though -

As for kathi: Yes - i'm just unwilling to take the time to :
1 - figure out the long-lat of 200 miles around LA, then
2 - do a catalogue of quakes withing that area (rather easy thought with quake search tools) then
3 - spend the time over at Jim's site to look thru all the messages for when kathi had a headache and then
4 - chart that against quakes here in LA.

If anyone wants to prove me wrong in my 'guess-assesment' please do... (No better than chance)

And as long as I'm in the mood here (Maybe its the new moon ?) - Martin@nice sees a quake in an area, then predicts something larger in that area based on the theory of foreshocks ( better than nothing I'll admit) - What percentage of the time does it NOT pan out - quite often - and now he's patting himself on the back because it happened to work a few times... Martin - count the number of predictions you've put over at Jim's place and you've hit 12 ? - what kind of a percentage hit rate is that ? On his board right now I just counted at least 24 predictions since July 10th! Again - not any better than chance and a little better than darts. At least you look for foreshocks...

People read these predictions and take it all pretty seriously - Right now we have a number of active predictions for Southern California - Kathi Gori - Dr Shou (clouds guy) - New Moon - Jim Berkland - Martin based on foreshocks - anyone else ? Oh yes, Jack Coles even. If I were a person that was easily frightened, I'd decide to go camping in Eastern nevada somewhere about now!

Is everyone really seeing/feeling soemthing or are there just so many suggesting a quake that everyone is jumping on the bandwagon ?

Ending dates of predictions:
Kathi - July 30th
Shou - 7/31
Berkland - 8/7 ?
Martin - 8/1
Coles - thru 8/20 - but these days: 8/3, 8/9 & 8/20

I guess all I'm saying is so far - quite a few of these things have not forwarded the earthquake prediction task at all. I do give credence to some - Dennis is one and Dr Shou is another- Jack Coles - there are a couple other sensitives that I've followed in the last 4 years and I sure perk up when they say something is up.

I still believe we can and will predict quakes someday - I just sure won't bet my life on some of the methods currently in use!

Maybe it will take a combined effort - A number of folks are using magnetic, electric or low frequency signals to look for quakes - others use clouds - and then there are the sensitives - Not to mention good old plate tectonics and strain accumulation! Or maybe we just haven't found the right combination yet?

Canie