Re: John V. or ?
Posted by Mike Williams in Arroyo Grande on July 07, 2007 at 06:21:21:

I believe the two terms refer to the same phenomenon, Glen. A quick, completely non-exhaustive search seems to confirm that, but I could be wrong.

MW
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     ● agreed - John Vidale  07:21:33 - 7/7/2007  (72119)  (0)