Making things unnecessarily complicated
Posted by EQF on November 21, 2003 at 12:54:16:

Hi Canie,

It constantly amazes me how complicated this appears to be to everyone. The technology is in fact quite complex. But the general idea is fairly simple. I will explain once again.

The following are lists of times when I detected warning signals such as Ear Tones which I believe were and are linked with approaching earthquakes:

http://www.freewebz.com/eq-forecasting/133.html

http://www.freewebz.com/eq-forecasting/132.html

That is about all of the information there is. Some of the signals have a little additional information regarding when the earthquake will occur, but not much. There is absolutely no location information available with the signals.

So, how do you tell when and where an earthquake is going to occur given such a small amount of information?

I have developed these complex computer programs which attempt to link warning signal times with the times when past earthquakes occurred. The Wave Charts at my 90-03.html Web page represent one of those programs which is moderately easy to understand. However the main program that I use is turning out to be almost impossible to explain to people. I myself do not really know why it works. It was developed by using some basic logic and then making adjustments to the program operation until it began producing good numbers.

At the moment it does an excellent job of showing that some earthquake was responsible for a signal which was detected a few days or weeks in the past. But as valuable as that information is for research purposes it does not help too much with getting people out of the earthquake's way.

Where those routines are at the moment they appear to do a moderately good job of telling where an expected earthquake might occur perhaps 1/3 of the time. With a lot of work I can get them to do moderately well with another 1/3 of the expected earthquakes. With the last 1/3 they do not yet produce very good results.

To a large degree, the discussions which you are seeing regarding this technology are aimed at increasing the accuracy and effectiveness of these procedures. And I am also occasionally trying to post at least some information regarding an expected earthquake so that other people can watch the development process and hopefully generate some helpful comments.

At the same time I am trying to help other earthquake forecasters such as Shan get their own methods better organized so that people can determine if they do actually work, and what their strengths and limitations might be etc.

This is the way that the scientific method works. It is nice if people who are getting paid to do this type of work want to publish papers on it etc. But those of us who are doing the work during their free time have to make do with what is available. And your bulletin board is serving as a helpful type of publication forum.


Follow Ups:
     ● talking in circles - John Vidale  13:48:17 - 11/21/2003  (20193)  (2)
        ● Re: talking in circles - Cathryn  22:52:04 - 11/21/2003  (20214)  (1)
           ● biweekly tides - John Vidale  07:30:31 - 11/22/2003  (20222)  (1)
              ● Re: biweekly tides - Cathryn  16:58:56 - 11/22/2003  (20229)  (2)
                 ● Re: biweekly tides - Cathryn  17:14:30 - 11/23/2003  (20253)  (1)
                    ● eclipses - John Vidale  17:19:36 - 11/23/2003  (20254)  (1)
                       ● Re: eclipses - Canie  20:54:41 - 11/23/2003  (20259)  (0)
                 ● biweekly tides - John Vidale  06:14:40 - 11/23/2003  (20245)  (0)
        ● No. You are simply not listening. - EQF  14:55:33 - 11/21/2003  (20196)  (2)
           ● I'm losing my patience - John Vidale  15:47:53 - 11/21/2003  (20198)  (1)
              ● Re: I'm losing my patience - EQF  17:19:31 - 11/21/2003  (20203)  (0)
           ● That was supposed to be - Perhaps you are simply not listening n/t - EQF  14:58:53 - 11/21/2003  (20197)  (0)