Re: Since David asked......
Posted by 2cents on December 15, 2001 at 03:54:20:

Hi BW: LOL...I like your attitude....

Frank Zappa's point is well taken. However,it
seems Zappa never had the benefits of a mentor who could steer the wayward novice away from mistakes in thinking that are likely to happen.
There are examples of good teachers "launching" great students who went on to do great things.

The scientific process of peer review is another method of capturing "wayward" thinking 'team style' and prevents alot of wasted time reading half-baked material which overlooks certain key negating points which are often swept aside in the novices enthusiums for what he/she has "come up" with.... It's OK though...it's a human thing....

re:"After the sun ejects a tiny bit of matter forming a planet, the remaining planets shift back about one position, like electrons changing orbital energy states in an atom after it has been excited. As they move back through the positions, their mantles open and gases are released. Slowly they turn from barren (Mercury), to developing (Venus), to inhabitable (Earth), then placed far enough out of orbit to start losing its magnetosphere and atmosphere (Mars) as the interior dynamo slows.
As the planets move back in position, the mantles open further making them become more gaseous (Jovian). (Fact: Jupiter, Neptune, Saturn, and Uranus are all Jovian type planets. Pluto is ice, but isn't even considered a planet by some, as it is part of a large ice field on the outskirts of our solar system, and is 17 degrees off from the declination of the rest of the system. The inner planets (Mars, Earth, Venus, and Mercury) are all terrestrial.)

The gaseous planets require less influence from the sun to remain stable, since they are predominately gas. Their claim to fame of great mass is highly overrated, since gas takes up space but doesn't weigh a whole lot."

+ This theory would violate Newton's Law which could be applied to slow moving (non-relativistic) masses like planets. In it the forces between bodies are governed by F=Gm1m2/
d**2 (where:
------- m1 is mass body 1
------- m2 is mass body 2
------- d is distance between masses
------- **2 indicates squaring the value
------- G - gravitional constant

For the earth to "shift orbits" by 1 (towards MARS) then G would have to suffer a big hit (reduction).

If the mantles were going to open...why not at their present orbit position ?


re: "The gaseous planets require less influence from the sun to remain stable, since they are predominately gas. Their claim to fame of great mass is highly overrated, since gas takes up space but doesn't weigh a whole lot."

+ Believe one method uses Newton's Law and observed orbit of planet to derive the mass of the planet.... Another could be using a spectral analysis of emitted light bands to derive composition in conjunction with visual methods for diameter....

There's some unexplained things going on with the asteroids ... alot of people in this area of science are baffled...though various explanations have been offered but usually lacking in many ways....

Keep those innovative ideas coming....one or more may hit pay dirt !

2cents


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