[Duffy]

(02-13-2015, 04:43 AM)Skywise Wrote: Duffy, in your post with all those charts (which was really informative), you mentioned that you believe radon that is released prior to an earthquake may be interacting with the D Layer of the ionosphere, as a possible explanation for your measurements.

Radon gas has a density of 9.73 grams/liter, and sea level standard pressure air is only 1.2 g/L. That means radon is 8 times heavier than air. This is why it's such a danger in unventilated spaces such as basements.

The D layer region, although the lowest layer of the ionosphere, is generally 60km to 90km high.

How would you explain for radon to get up that high?

I don't think radon would explain your measurements. Even so, that doesn't negate your theory. Just that your suggested causal mechanism may be incorrect.

Brian

your absolutely right Brian, my suggestion could be wrong, but seemed to be the only explination at the time that would fit the picture. I'm not the most intelligent of people, but I'm pretty good at adding two and two together, I know from past posts that you specialise in electronics, lasers and have a better than average knowledge of the electromagnetic spectrum. You can see how the traces in the image, drop instantaniously at the same time, and may have come to the same conclusion as I did having first set eyes on it, this has to be a power outage of some kind. Well, believe me, I went to extremes to cover all the bases here, National grid reports, independant circuit tests , Checking for anomolies in conductive plumbing (use to get EMI from laundry room on a regular basis), I even tried to find out which direction the nearest wind turbines were facing during this period.

You have to bear in mind here, I didn't do this for one strange anomolly, I recorded a similar one the week after, and a couple in april 2013, non of which were as extreme as the first. I came across the radon phenomona 3 or 4 days after the first image, but dismissed it because the Solomons are on the other side of the World. Having ruled out any localised influences, I did a little experimentation to try and replicate the trace dropoffs, including voltage reduction with a plant transformer and high current tests in the vicinity of the antenna. The closest I got was when I tried a garden hose to simulate rain fall, this didn't do anything at first, but when I altered the hose setting to a spray mist effect at a distance of 3 metres, the traces dropped, but directly vertical to the bottom of the screen, recovering 5 minutes later to normal levels. In one experiment, I let off a fire extinguisher at the antenna, much to the displeasure of Mother-in-law as all the surrounding conifer's resembled something out of a Christmas Disney movie, the theory being that an airbourn contaminant adheared to the antenna may be blocking signal reception (you car radio in a tunnel for instance). It's possible the men in white coats could take this place apart and find a perfectly logical reason, or are the EM signatures corrolated with Radon somehow?

After eliminating what I could, I searched for answers online and came across the radon again, as a hobbiest it still seems the only plausable explination I can come up with. I made notes at the time which at the moment elude me, but I did search online again last night and came across dozen's of published radon research projects (typed "VLF Radon" in Google), after 10 paper's and 2 cold coffee's, I noted down a couple of statements, as per your original question, "how is Radon able to achieve altitudes of 60-90km. I quote here from the conclusion of a report by the University of Tokyo and Geological society of Japan who were engaged in Radon testing, before, during and after the Kobe, Japan Earthquake of 17th January 1995.

"At present, it is difficult to suggest a plausable, physical or chemical mechanism of reflection hight decrease and corresponding modification of density and conductive profile".

In small words, I think this means they don't know, another report suggested "Tectonic stress-strain triggers CO2 outgassing, which in turn acts as a carrier for Radon gas". And a further report from researchers in Bad Bramburg in Germany, found that Radon anomolies "are" associated with seismic events. Of course there are others that counter act these reports, just as you counter acted my best Newton trivia in the VLF thread (take me a while to forgive you for that one ). Now, I'm not going to bring up the famous Sherlock Holms quote here, but if the scientists say that sugar is good for me, and others say it is bad, as a regular Joe public who do I believe?, if I think I maybe holding the sugar bowl, then who do I believe?.

Finally, there is another feature in the image that could be of significance, and I couldn't believe that having this hanging on my wall for 14 months after recording, that I didn't notice the 3 large peaks at around 11:30 UT. It was only when the EM signals spurned a greater curiosity in me early in 2014, that I speculated weather this was an Earthquake related EM signature ?. Think I'll finish here before the men in white coats come back to take me away Ha Ha .


Duffy