See link. The previous low Artic ice was in 2007. Then the climate change deniers said that there was not a problem because ice volumes after 2007 were larger. OK, so it is 2011 and even less ice. It is more likely than not IMHO that in 2012 there will be somewhat more ice at the September minimum than is the case right now. So, the deniers will again say "no problem".

Some people need a lesson in logic.

Chris the cranky

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