Posted by Lowell on November 16, 2001 at 02:51:52:
Petra - I think Don's owes you a well-deserved pay-back and Cathryn - You can come out of the shallow end of the swimming pool now with your head held high. Well, folks, the "I'll Jump in contest" wasn't quite over after all. You will recall back at the beginning of November Cathryn suggested the epicenter of 37.1N 122W was due for an earthquake of Ml 3.5-4.5 and gave a time window from Nov. 1-10. That started a contest - other entries were: Lowell: within 50 km of 37.1N 122W Ml 2-5-3.5 between Nov. 7-11 Don : within 40 km of 37.2N 122W Ml 3.5-4.5 between Nov. 6-10 Roger : no such Event Pam : Agreed with Cathryn But then, tonight Petra jumped into the mix (after telling us in no uncertain terms, she wasn't going to post any more forecasts - and then taking a woman's perogative and changing her mind) and posted the following forecast: Petra : within 40 km of 37.3N 121.9W Ml 2.8-3.8 between Nov 15 at 9:17PST and Nov 25 Midnight PST Tonight there was a Ml 3.1 near Aptos, California with the following NCSN parameters: O: 16NOV2001 09:11:30 37.1N 121.9W ML=3.1 NCSN NE of Santa Cruz, CA This event lies about 22 km from Petra's forecast and within the magnitude and time windows (about 4 hours after her prediction was posted). I sure would like to know how you did that Petra. Congratulations, Petra, now it's time for Don to treat you!! Are you guys getting good or what!! I posted probabilities on Petra's prediction in an earlier post so they will not be repeated here. For Petra's forecast see: http://www.earthwaves.org/wwwboard/messages/11008.html This event is also less than 10 km away from the original epicenter that Cathryn had predicted, an epicenter basically agreed to by everyone except Roger. Lowell was the only one within the magnitude range, although Don had suggested the quake would be on the low side of the 3.5-4.5 range Cathryn had predicted. We declared a tie when the time window ran out on this event, so that will not change, but just how "good" was Cathryn's prediction had she included a 16-day time window or Lowell's (which is essentially the same as Don's) with a 10-day time window. PROBABILITY: In the past 5 years (Nov 1, 1996 to Nov 1, 2001) there have been 22 ten-day time windows which included at least one event of Ml>=3.0 in this region; in the same time there were 17 16-day time windows containing an event of Ml>=3 within 40 km. A total of 114 16-day time windows and 182 10-day time windows give probabilities of a success in a 10-day window at Ml>=3 of 0.12 and in a 16-day time window to 0.15. These translate to odds of 1 in 8 and 1 in 7 respectively. This was the first event of Ml>=3 in the stated region since April 12, 2001 when a Ml 3.6 occurred near Hollister. But getting the epicenter as close as Cathryn did was quite a different matter. The epicenter is the first within 10 km with Ml>=3 since a swarm between Dec 28-31, 1998 (nearly 3 years), and these were the only such events in the past 10-years. No matter how you slice the dice, the prediction of an unusual event at this epicenter at this time was very difficult to accomplish by chance. Congratulations Cathryn, all the rest of us (except Roger) were just bandwagoneers. For Cathryn's original prediction see: http://www.earthwaves.org/wwwboard/messages/10570.html
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● Re: Prediction(s) of tonight's Aptos, CA earthquake (Ml 3.1) - Cathryn 12:38:32 - 11/16/2001 (11039) (0)
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