Posted by Lowell on August 01, 2001 at 14:34:47:
Don, Do you have friends at the Montana Bureau of Mines who call you when there is an earthquake or does that gut of yours have an internal telephone (kind of reminds me of a Star Trek NG episode where Data opens up his mid section to reveal a telephone in a dream - apparently some alien was trying to communicate). Anyway, all joking aside the prediction Don posted last night does raise some interesting questions for those of us charged with evaluating such. You see, an earthquake matching all the parameters of Don's prediction (but 1.5 days out of his time window) occurred yesterday afternoon, but was not made public by MBMG until about an hour ago. Don's prediction was made after the event but before he should have had knowledge of the existence of the earthquake. Since I have no reason to believe that Don has access to unpublished earthquake data, I have to accept this as a legitimate "prediction" even though it was posted after the event occurred. I would appreciate some thoughts from others on this - Michael, Roger, Roger?? How should we deal with predictions which are made after an event but before public knowledge of that event is available? Anyway last night Don's gut was acting up again and he made the following prediction: McCall, Idaho Earthquake Forecast Posted by Don In Hollister on August 01, 2001 at 00:22:25: Magnitude: 2.8-4.5Ml From: 08/02/2001 - To: 08/07/2001 Location: McCall, Idaho Lat: 45.0N - Long: 115.9W - Range: 80Km Hi All. It's late at night, or early in the morning and as I have nothing better to do I thought I would try another area. A 2.8 to 4.5Ml at 45.0N/155.9W (SIC) on 08/04/2001 (my birthday) and before you ask, don't ask and Petra you keep your fingers off the keyboard. This is about 15 miles ESE of McCall, Idaho. The window opens on 08/02/2001 and closes on 08/07/2001. The radius is 80Km. Take Care...Don in creepy town MBMG is reporting as of 2:00 p.m. PST today the following earthquake: 01/07/31 15:16:06 44.60N 115.21W 10.0 2.8 D 45 km NW of Stanley, ID This event occurred about 1.5 days earlier than the time window but was within the magnitude range and occurred 71 km from the predicted site. If the prediction is allowed it stands as an A- (again). This is the largest event within 80 km of the predicted location since March 13, 2001 when an Ml 2.8 occurred. Earthquakes of ML 3.6 (March 10, 2001) and Ml 3.4 (October 15, 2000) have also recently occurred in this region. Suggestions: to Don: Let's get those predictions out a few days before the events occur - I suppose that may be difficult if it is a gut feeling but if that gut is partially located in a computer, it may be something you could think about. to Michael, Roger etc. Some kind of guideline regarding these predictions which fall through the time cracks between event and public knowledge of the event need to be developed especially for the EPR. By the way, I know this event was not posted until this afternoon because I checked MBMG this morning at 9:00 a.m. and the last event on the listing was 19 July, 2001.
Follow Ups:
● Re: McCall/Stanley Earthquake/prediction - mark 20:39:46 - 8/2/2001 (8763) (0)
● Re: McCall/Stanley Earthquake/prediction - Roger Hunter 05:12:10 - 8/2/2001 (8759) (0)
● Re: McCall/Stanley Earthquake/prediction - michael 14:50:41 - 8/1/2001 (8748) (2)
● Re: McCall/Stanley Earthquake/prediction - Don In Hollister 22:06:01 - 8/1/2001 (8755) (0)
● Re: McCall/Stanley Earthquake/prediction - Petra Challus 17:56:30 - 8/1/2001 (8753) (1)
● Re: McCall/Stanley Earthquake/prediction - Don In Hollister 22:20:40 - 8/1/2001 (8756) (0)
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