I'm not saying nothin'. Last time I got into a Jack brawl was over at Jims place...It was a mess..but yes Canie I think he does ULF..at least that is what he told KGO about 8 years ago when he had his last *significant* hit (others were interesting tho..). Doesn't Diane Pope build some of her theories around squaring or some such as she said Jack was doing the same thing. Not sure...