12-14-2015, 11:22 PM
Hi Roger
I think it would take a lot of time to explain this in a more concise manner, so I've decided to show you how I was trying to predict Earthquakes in Oklahoma. I usually re-work the maths and refine the combinations into a better scientific format, but I was short of time today so you will have to excuse the crude and simplistic presentation. I am listing abbreviations to help understand, and some calculation may be off by a couple of minutes because time didn't allow calculating for angle and daylight hours. The absence of seconds of time, does make a difference in the long run, but I decided to round every thing off to the nearest minute to save confusion. As I said, It needs a lot of re-working, but I think you'll get the general idea.
I set myself a target of trying to calculate all Earthquakes posted on the EMSC lastquake site between the hours of 10:00 - 15:00 ut, the idea was to try and link my calculations with solar and lunar motion relative to Earthquake events, using Sun and Moon rise/set times, and the times listed in abbreviations.
Abbreviations,
MR moonrise
MS moon-set
SR sunrise
SS sunset
D diurnal time = 49m
LD lunar disc = 4m
SD solar disc = 5m
r/s rise/set refers to 2x lunar or solar disc
1,2,3 refer to hours
M4.8 Chile 10:04 UT ......... Moonrise 12:45 UT ..... MR - 2 - D + LD r/s = 10:04 UT
M2.6 Greece 10:04 ........... Moonrise 07:56 UT ..... MR + 2 + LD r/s = 10:04 UT
M2.5 Crete 10:06 UT ......... Moonrise 07:30 UT ...... MR + 2 + D - LD r/s - SD = 10:07 UT
M2.8 Crete 10:38 UT ......... Moonrise 07:38 UT ...... MR + 3 = 10:38 UT
M2.5 Greece 10:47 UT ....... Moonrise 07:28 UT ...... MR + 3 + LD r/s + SD r/s = 10:46 UT
M4.6 Molucca Sea 10:57 UT ... Moon-set 12:02 UT ...... MS - 2 + D + LD r/s = 10:59 UT
M2.2 Greece 11:38 UT .......... Moonrise 07:56 UT ....... MR + 3 + D - LD r/s = 11:37 UT
M2.3 Chile 12:01 UT .............. Moonrise 12:47 UT ....... MR - 1 + LD r/s + SD = 12:01 UT
M3.0 Texas 12:35 UT ............. Moonrise 15:46 UT ....... MR - 3 - SD r/s = 12:36 UT
M4.8 Tonga 13:02 UT ............ Sunrise 16:47 UT ...... SR - 3 - D + LD = 13:02 UT
M3.4 Columbia 13:25 UT ....... Moonrise 13:36 UT ...... MR - 2 - SD r/s + 2 = 13:26 UT
M3.0 Chile 13:30 UT .............. Moonrise 12:48 UT ....... MR - 2 - LD r/s + D = 13:29 UT
M4.5 Afghanistan 13:45 UT .... Sunset 12:07 UT ...... SS - 3 + D - SD r/s + 3 = 13:46 UT
M2.5 Northern CA 13:51 UT .... Moonrise 17:48 UT ...... MR - 3 - D - LD r/s = 13:51 UT
M2.1 Greece 14:29 UT ............ Moon-set 18:25 UT ...... MS - 3 - D - LD r/s = 14:28 UT
M2.2 Greece 14:41 UT ............. Moon-set 18:32 UT ....... MS - 3 - D = 14:43 UT
M3.1 Turkey 15:04 UT ............. Moon-set 16:55 UT ....... MS - 2 + SD/LD = 15:04 UT
M3.3 Greece 15:06 UT ............. Sunset 15:16 UT ........... SS - 3 - SD r/s + 3 = 15:06 UT
I omitted four quakes because, Iran 10:44 UT, Greece 13:01 UT and Chile 15:11 UT are lunar noon quakes which take a lot longer to calculate, and Hawaii 10:19 UT is a mirror quake, which would take the time of three lunar noon quakes to calculate.
It seems simplistic Roger, when you only have to use three small numbers combined with Sun and Moon times!, problem is , no combination is the same from week to week, you have to keep changing them in relation to the orbits of the Sun, Moon and Earth. One thing's for sure, If you think this is a credible formula, it would certainly gain favour for a Sun/Moon correlation with Earthquakes.
OH! nearly forgot one
M2.6 Oklahoma 18:15 UT ..........Moonrise 15:58 UT ........ MR + 3 - D + SD =
Duffy,
I think it would take a lot of time to explain this in a more concise manner, so I've decided to show you how I was trying to predict Earthquakes in Oklahoma. I usually re-work the maths and refine the combinations into a better scientific format, but I was short of time today so you will have to excuse the crude and simplistic presentation. I am listing abbreviations to help understand, and some calculation may be off by a couple of minutes because time didn't allow calculating for angle and daylight hours. The absence of seconds of time, does make a difference in the long run, but I decided to round every thing off to the nearest minute to save confusion. As I said, It needs a lot of re-working, but I think you'll get the general idea.
I set myself a target of trying to calculate all Earthquakes posted on the EMSC lastquake site between the hours of 10:00 - 15:00 ut, the idea was to try and link my calculations with solar and lunar motion relative to Earthquake events, using Sun and Moon rise/set times, and the times listed in abbreviations.
Abbreviations,
MR moonrise
MS moon-set
SR sunrise
SS sunset
D diurnal time = 49m
LD lunar disc = 4m
SD solar disc = 5m
r/s rise/set refers to 2x lunar or solar disc
1,2,3 refer to hours
M4.8 Chile 10:04 UT ......... Moonrise 12:45 UT ..... MR - 2 - D + LD r/s = 10:04 UT
M2.6 Greece 10:04 ........... Moonrise 07:56 UT ..... MR + 2 + LD r/s = 10:04 UT
M2.5 Crete 10:06 UT ......... Moonrise 07:30 UT ...... MR + 2 + D - LD r/s - SD = 10:07 UT
M2.8 Crete 10:38 UT ......... Moonrise 07:38 UT ...... MR + 3 = 10:38 UT
M2.5 Greece 10:47 UT ....... Moonrise 07:28 UT ...... MR + 3 + LD r/s + SD r/s = 10:46 UT
M4.6 Molucca Sea 10:57 UT ... Moon-set 12:02 UT ...... MS - 2 + D + LD r/s = 10:59 UT
M2.2 Greece 11:38 UT .......... Moonrise 07:56 UT ....... MR + 3 + D - LD r/s = 11:37 UT
M2.3 Chile 12:01 UT .............. Moonrise 12:47 UT ....... MR - 1 + LD r/s + SD = 12:01 UT
M3.0 Texas 12:35 UT ............. Moonrise 15:46 UT ....... MR - 3 - SD r/s = 12:36 UT
M4.8 Tonga 13:02 UT ............ Sunrise 16:47 UT ...... SR - 3 - D + LD = 13:02 UT
M3.4 Columbia 13:25 UT ....... Moonrise 13:36 UT ...... MR - 2 - SD r/s + 2 = 13:26 UT
M3.0 Chile 13:30 UT .............. Moonrise 12:48 UT ....... MR - 2 - LD r/s + D = 13:29 UT
M4.5 Afghanistan 13:45 UT .... Sunset 12:07 UT ...... SS - 3 + D - SD r/s + 3 = 13:46 UT
M2.5 Northern CA 13:51 UT .... Moonrise 17:48 UT ...... MR - 3 - D - LD r/s = 13:51 UT
M2.1 Greece 14:29 UT ............ Moon-set 18:25 UT ...... MS - 3 - D - LD r/s = 14:28 UT
M2.2 Greece 14:41 UT ............. Moon-set 18:32 UT ....... MS - 3 - D = 14:43 UT
M3.1 Turkey 15:04 UT ............. Moon-set 16:55 UT ....... MS - 2 + SD/LD = 15:04 UT
M3.3 Greece 15:06 UT ............. Sunset 15:16 UT ........... SS - 3 - SD r/s + 3 = 15:06 UT
I omitted four quakes because, Iran 10:44 UT, Greece 13:01 UT and Chile 15:11 UT are lunar noon quakes which take a lot longer to calculate, and Hawaii 10:19 UT is a mirror quake, which would take the time of three lunar noon quakes to calculate.
It seems simplistic Roger, when you only have to use three small numbers combined with Sun and Moon times!, problem is , no combination is the same from week to week, you have to keep changing them in relation to the orbits of the Sun, Moon and Earth. One thing's for sure, If you think this is a credible formula, it would certainly gain favour for a Sun/Moon correlation with Earthquakes.
OH! nearly forgot one
M2.6 Oklahoma 18:15 UT ..........Moonrise 15:58 UT ........ MR + 3 - D + SD =
Duffy,