I appreciate the list, but I am having trouble figuring out which location you used as ground zero. I have mentioned several places in the last two days ... so maybe it is I that is getting confused !
Changing subject, my own data contradicts the space data, or should I say it is currently giving a second option on co-ordinates 118' 34' E - 7' 49' S Flores Sea. Its the opposite longitude to Trinidad & Tobago ... still working on it though !
Glad you could still make it ... could you please clarify which single point and which general location you are referring too. My response might be wrong if I am not sure of the facts. I know your information is based on statistics over a great period, mine is mostly observational and I am basically joining the dots with the detail at hand ... please observe the following;
Just to remind you of the two big players in the first post of this thread; 143' 03' E - 27' 48' N South of Japan ... 15' 36' W - 27' 32' S Southern Mid-Atlantic Ridge.
You can see that this image is GOES data, the time at top right corner shows this graph was acquired today (11th March). Why the purple and yellow traces originally stopped is not relevant, but they both re-established recording at 05:44 ut. It is Dawn on bearing 15' 36' W - 27' 32' S at this time. At 07:02:10 ut, a 5.0 occurred on the Central East Pacific Rise, USGS is showing a 5.2 occurred in Argentina 90 seconds earlier (this one is currently missing from EMSC list). At 07:02 ut, it was sunrise on bearing 15' 36' W - 27' 32' S at this time !
The image then shows the red trace discontinued at 08:32 ut, at 08:32 ut it was sunset on bearing 143' 03' E - 27' 48' N South of Japan. When the red trace re-established at 09:52 ut, it was Dusk on bearing 143' 03' E - 27' 48' N.
I am describing detail that is clearly visible in this image, and I am using times and locations that I calculated from a different space data image on 2nd March. The two images are 9 days apart, and are openly available for anybody to check. The south Atlantic location could be a single point, and nothing may actually happen there. But this detail shows it had correlation with GOES data and at least one 5+ event ... I have therefore joined observational dots and given my interpretation of the facts.
I have similar images and detail from yesterday, which indicates a possible 5+ event off the West coast of Trinidad and Tobago on 61' 42' W longitude. When I have finished sourcing my own data for conformation, I intend to place a prediction with said detail included.
Duffy
Duffy;
the massage didn't get attached to the file.
The point is -72:14 -45:55 and the quakes are everything from the Neic database mag 5+ from 1973/1/1 to 2017/1/17 which was 90 degrees away from that point +/- 0.25 degrees.
OK I understand now, we have a 90 degree distance from the co-ordinates in Chile and 196 quakes of 5+ have occurred at that distance since 1973. Do you have anyway of determining if sunrise/sunset was on this bearing at the time these quakes occurred. The point I was making with Chile was the number of quakes in January gone, had a higher correlation of sunrise/sunset times than any other month over the past year. It gives no relation to a very active region because the count would be more or less, up or down all year ... it is not !
OK I understand now, we have a 90 degree distance from the co-ordinates in Chile and 196 quakes of 5+ have occurred at that distance since 1973. Do you have anyway of determining if sunrise/sunset was on this bearing at the time these quakes occurred. The point I was making with Chile was the number of quakes in January gone, had a higher correlation of sunrise/sunset times than any other month over the past year. It gives no relation to a very active region because the count would be more or less, up or down all year ... it is not !
Duffy
Duffy;
No, I haven't found a way to convert RA/dec to Lat/Lon.
However, you have lat,lon and UTC so it shoud be possible to compute local time and get an approximate sunup/down idea from that.
Glad you could still make it ... could you please clarify which single point and which general location you are referring too. My response might be wrong if I am not sure of the facts. I know your information is based on statistics over a great period, mine is mostly observational and I am basically joining the dots with the detail at hand ... please observe the following;
Just to remind you of the two big players in the first post of this thread; 143' 03' E - 27' 48' N South of Japan ... 15' 36' W - 27' 32' S Southern Mid-Atlantic Ridge.
You can see that this image is GOES data, the time at top right corner shows this graph was acquired today (11th March). Why the purple and yellow traces originally stopped is not relevant, but they both re-established recording at 05:44 ut. It is Dawn on bearing 15' 36' W - 27' 32' S at this time. At 07:02:10 ut, a 5.0 occurred on the Central East Pacific Rise, USGS is showing a 5.2 occurred in Argentina 90 seconds earlier (this one is currently missing from EMSC list). At 07:02 ut, it was sunrise on bearing 15' 36' W - 27' 32' S at this time !
The image then shows the red trace discontinued at 08:32 ut, at 08:32 ut it was sunset on bearing 143' 03' E - 27' 48' N South of Japan. When the red trace re-established at 09:52 ut, it was Dusk on bearing 143' 03' E - 27' 48' N.
I am describing detail that is clearly visible in this image, and I am using times and locations that I calculated from a different space data image on 2nd March. The two images are 9 days apart, and are openly available for anybody to check. The south Atlantic location could be a single point, and nothing may actually happen there. But this detail shows it had correlation with GOES data and at least one 5+ event ... I have therefore joined observational dots and given my interpretation of the facts.
I have similar images and detail from yesterday, which indicates a possible 5+ event off the West coast of Trinidad and Tobago on 61' 42' W longitude. When I have finished sourcing my own data for conformation, I intend to place a prediction with said detail included.
Duffy
Depression in high energy proton data 19:20 ut ... Sunset on bearing 15' 36' W - 27' 32' S (Atlantic) 19:21 ut !!
03-11-2017, 10:55 PM (This post was last modified: 03-11-2017, 11:00 PM by Roger Hunter.)
(03-11-2017, 07:50 PM)Roger Hunter Wrote:
(03-11-2017, 05:46 PM)Duffy Wrote: Roger
OK I understand now, we have a 90 degree distance from the co-ordinates in Chile and 196 quakes of 5+ have occurred at that distance since 1973. Do you have anyway of determining if sunrise/sunset was on this bearing at the time these quakes occurred. The point I was making with Chile was the number of quakes in January gone, had a higher correlation of sunrise/sunset times than any other month over the past year. It gives no relation to a very active region because the count would be more or less, up or down all year ... it is not !
Duffy
Duffy;
No, I haven't found a way to convert RA/dec to Lat/Lon.
However, you have lat,lon and UTC so it shoud be possible to compute local time and get an approximate sunup/down idea from that.
If I am looking in areas related to the time of a space signal, I will undoubtedly find things because there is reason for the signal to have appeared in the first place. I have shown how I used this signal to determine 4 locations, had the signal not appeared I would not be finding correlation with current events.
The aspect change was related to the 6.0 Nicobar Islands quake. I used my equation to relate time of aspect change to the same longitude as the "South of Japan" cross. And when this event occurred at 02:51:16 ut, the moon was on 23' 08' W longitude ... same longitude as my "South of Azores" cross. Two coincidental correlations which is what your implying, I have used my equation and temporal difference hypothesis many times here, on this occasion the moon was conveniently in the right place at the right time. I agree with, and understand your logic, but I also believe I would not find any connections if they where not already present.
I would like to try this again because as you correctly stated, I cannot argue this point without more data. I have also decided to monitor a 10 degree corridor and its opposite longitude. I did not see Nicobar coming because I was concentrating on 4 different locations. It's my birthday today, so I chose 115' to 125' W and opposite longitudes of 55' to 65' E. The last activity above mag 5 in the West corridor was the 5+ quakes in Nevada on 28th December, last in the East was a 5.1 Southwest Indian Ridge on 21st February ... do you agree with this selection ?
Just got back from seeing the Doc, she diagnosed me as having sciatica ... I know how this feels, so you have my sympathy !
03-14-2017, 05:45 PM (This post was last modified: 03-14-2017, 07:08 PM by Roger Hunter.)
(03-14-2017, 01:57 PM)Duffy Wrote: Roger;
If I am looking in areas related to the time of a space signal, I will undoubtedly find things because there is reason for the signal to have appeared in the first place. I have shown how I used this signal to determine 4 locations, had the signal not appeared I would not be finding correlation with current events.
The aspect change was related to the 6.0 Nicobar Islands quake. I used my equation to relate time of aspect change to the same longitude as the "South of Japan" cross. And when this event occurred at 02:51:16 ut, the moon was on 23' 08' W longitude ... same longitude as my "South of Azores" cross. Two coincidental correlations which is what your implying, I have used my equation and temporal difference hypothesis many times here, on this occasion the moon was conveniently in the right place at the right time. I agree with, and understand your logic, but I also believe I would not find any connections if they where not already present.
I would like to try this again because as you correctly stated, I cannot argue this point without more data. I have also decided to monitor a 10 degree corridor and its opposite longitude. I did not see Nicobar coming because I was concentrating on 4 different locations. It's my birthday today, so I chose 115' to 125' W and opposite longitudes of 55' to 65' E. The last activity above mag 5 in the West corridor was the 5+ quakes in Nevada on 28th December, last in the East was a 5.1 Southwest Indian Ridge on 21st February ... do you agree with this selection ?
Just got back from seeing the Doc, she diagnosed me as having sciatica ... I know how this feels, so you have my sympathy !
Duffy
Duffy;
I'm currently working on a program to map things for you. It will show your center point, the 90 degree circle and the following quakes. Maybe it will help you see what's happening.
Happy birthday! Mine is in November.
The parameter selection is up to you.
Good news on my sciatica. I got several shots in my back and the pain is all gone. It isn't a cure and it may not last but it sure helps in the meantime! Corticosteriods in the L3 and L4 vertebra.
Roger
PS: A quick search of the two bands tells me that you will get a lot of hits on the east band, very few on the west band, since there were only 82 quakes in the west and 733 in the east.
First day on the job, and I find this magnetic contact at 10:24 ut ... Centre of the moon was on longitude 122' 06' W and sunset on 117' 56' E - 7' 49' S Flores Sea (mentioned this location before !). If you deduct 8 minutes, Centre of the moon is then on 120' 06' W longitude, and it is Sunrise on 61' 42' W - 10' 40' N Trinidad & Tobago (mentioned this one too !). The next magnetic contact occurred at 15:10 ut, it was Dusk in the East corridor ! ... these coincidences keep happening !
Glad to hear you got fixed up, I've been relegated to a kitchen stool because my TV chair is to low to get up from.
Glad you could still make it ... could you please clarify which single point and which general location you are referring too. My response might be wrong if I am not sure of the facts. I know your information is based on statistics over a great period, mine is mostly observational and I am basically joining the dots with the detail at hand ... please observe the following;
Just to remind you of the two big players in the first post of this thread; 143' 03' E - 27' 48' N South of Japan ... 15' 36' W - 27' 32' S Southern Mid-Atlantic Ridge.
You can see that this image is GOES data, the time at top right corner shows this graph was acquired today (11th March). Why the purple and yellow traces originally stopped is not relevant, but they both re-established recording at 05:44 ut. It is Dawn on bearing 15' 36' W - 27' 32' S at this time. At 07:02:10 ut, a 5.0 occurred on the Central East Pacific Rise, USGS is showing a 5.2 occurred in Argentina 90 seconds earlier (this one is currently missing from EMSC list). At 07:02 ut, it was sunrise on bearing 15' 36' W - 27' 32' S at this time !
The image then shows the red trace discontinued at 08:32 ut, at 08:32 ut it was sunset on bearing 143' 03' E - 27' 48' N South of Japan. When the red trace re-established at 09:52 ut, it was Dusk on bearing 143' 03' E - 27' 48' N.
I am describing detail that is clearly visible in this image, and I am using times and locations that I calculated from a different space data image on 2nd March. The two images are 9 days apart, and are openly available for anybody to check. The south Atlantic location could be a single point, and nothing may actually happen there. But this detail shows it had correlation with GOES data and at least one 5+ event ... I have therefore joined observational dots and given my interpretation of the facts.
I have similar images and detail from yesterday, which indicates a possible 5+ event off the West coast of Trinidad and Tobago on 61' 42' W longitude. When I have finished sourcing my own data for conformation, I intend to place a prediction with said detail included.
Duffy
Depression in high energy proton data 19:20 ut ... Sunset on bearing 15' 36' W - 27' 32' S (Atlantic) 19:21 ut !!
Duffy
Duffy;
I believe the single point was the quake on Oct 23, 2016 at 08:00
I was using it to test my sun moon program.
Then I wandered off into my map program which is now working, but you never said if it might be of use to you.
It plots a Mercator map of the world and you can add a circle wherever you wish of whatever radius you wish.
Unfortunately, Mercator distorts as you near the poles so a 90 degree circle centered on the equator plots as 2 vertical lines and smaller ones will give sine waves.
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