[Duffy]

Prediction (J29)

Longitude .......... 7' 32' E

Latitude ............. 78' N

Error .................. +/- 3'

Magnitude .......... 5.5 - 7.0

Location ............. Off West Coast of Svalbard

Expiry Date ........ 00:00 ut 7th Nov

Note .................. I finally figured it out, this location is the source of the posted images. I didn't take into account, lines of longitude curve at polar regions on a 2D map . Svalbard was coming into daylight at the time stated in image 27th Sept, and the sun/moon were on the same line of longitude during the time the dome structure developed in image 30th Sept.... Hope this doesn't give cause for another blushing smiley !

Duffy  (11:52 ut 7th Oct)

[Roger Hunter]

(10-07-2016, 11:52 AM)Duffy Wrote: Note .................. I finally figured it out, this location is the source of the posted images. I didn't take into account, lines of longitude curve at polar regions on a 2D map . Svalbard was coming into daylight at the time stated in image 27th Sept, and the sun/moon were on the same line of longitude during the time the dome structure developed in image 30th Sept.... Hope this doesn't give cause for another blushing smiley !

Duffy  (11:52 ut 7th Oct)

Duffy are you taking the sun's latitude into account? It makes a huge difference in where the 90 degree radius circle falls.

Roger

[Duffy]

(10-07-2016, 02:11 PM)Roger Hunter Wrote:

(10-07-2016, 11:52 AM)Duffy Wrote: Note .................. I finally figured it out, this location is the source of the posted images. I didn't take into account, lines of longitude curve at polar regions on a 2D map . Svalbard was coming into daylight at the time stated in image 27th Sept, and the sun/moon were on the same line of longitude during the time the dome structure developed in image 30th Sept.... Hope this doesn't give cause for another blushing smiley !

Duffy  (11:52 ut 7th Oct)

Duffy are you taking the sun's latitude into account? It makes a huge difference in where the 90 degree radius circle falls.

Roger

I did Roger, I've been recording a continuous pattern for several days which suggests an anomaly alternating in daylight and semi-daylight. Combined with other data, I found my error and Svalbard seems to fit the picture ... Glad your back !

Duffy

[Roger Hunter]

(10-07-2016, 02:26 PM)Duffy Wrote:

(10-07-2016, 02:11 PM)Roger Hunter Wrote:

(10-07-2016, 11:52 AM)Duffy Wrote: Note .................. I finally figured it out, this location is the source of the posted images. I didn't take into account, lines of longitude curve at polar regions on a 2D map . Svalbard was coming into daylight at the time stated in image 27th Sept, and the sun/moon were on the same line of longitude during the time the dome structure developed in image 30th Sept.... Hope this doesn't give cause for another blushing smiley !

Duffy  (11:52 ut 7th Oct)

Duffy are you taking the sun's latitude into account? It makes a huge difference in where the 90 degree radius circle falls.

Roger

I did Roger, I've been recording a continuous pattern for several days which suggests an anomaly alternating in daylight and semi-daylight. Combined with other data, I found my error and Svalbard seems to fit the picture ... Glad your back !

Duffy

Not entirely, house still not sold.

Anyway, I was wondering if a program would help which would accept a time and create a map with the lines which shows all points 90 degrees from the sun and moon at that moment? 

Roger

[Duffy]

(10-07-2016, 03:09 PM)Roger Hunter Wrote:

(10-07-2016, 02:26 PM)Duffy Wrote:

(10-07-2016, 02:11 PM)Roger Hunter Wrote:

(10-07-2016, 11:52 AM)Duffy Wrote: Note .................. I finally figured it out, this location is the source of the posted images. I didn't take into account, lines of longitude curve at polar regions on a 2D map . Svalbard was coming into daylight at the time stated in image 27th Sept, and the sun/moon were on the same line of longitude during the time the dome structure developed in image 30th Sept.... Hope this doesn't give cause for another blushing smiley !

Duffy  (11:52 ut 7th Oct)

Duffy are you taking the sun's latitude into account? It makes a huge difference in where the 90 degree radius circle falls.

Roger

I did Roger, I've been recording a continuous pattern for several days which suggests an anomaly alternating in daylight and semi-daylight. Combined with other data, I found my error and Svalbard seems to fit the picture ... Glad your back !

Duffy

Not entirely, house still not sold.

Anyway, I was wondering if a program would help which would accept a time and create a map with the lines which shows all points 90 degrees from the sun and moon at that moment? 

Roger

Ideally, a program which would accept a time ... compute longitude of sun and moon ... and compute their longitudes relative to a 1 hour motional transit eg; the sun transits 15 degrees of longitude an hour, a program needs to calculate it's central position ... and it's position 7' 30' ahead and 7' 30' prior to the input time.  Same goes for the moon, which would be a little harder as it's motional transit varies with it's orbital distance.  Such a program would save time and errors !

Duffy

[Roger Hunter]

(10-07-2016, 05:04 PM)Duffy Wrote:

(10-07-2016, 03:09 PM)Roger Hunter Wrote:

(10-07-2016, 02:26 PM)Duffy Wrote:

(10-07-2016, 02:11 PM)Roger Hunter Wrote:

(10-07-2016, 11:52 AM)Duffy Wrote: Note .................. I finally figured it out, this location is the source of the posted images. I didn't take into account, lines of longitude curve at polar regions on a 2D map . Svalbard was coming into daylight at the time stated in image 27th Sept, and the sun/moon were on the same line of longitude during the time the dome structure developed in image 30th Sept.... Hope this doesn't give cause for another blushing smiley !

Duffy  (11:52 ut 7th Oct)

Duffy are you taking the sun's latitude into account? It makes a huge difference in where the 90 degree radius circle falls.

Roger

I did Roger, I've been recording a continuous pattern for several days which suggests an anomaly alternating in daylight and semi-daylight. Combined with other data, I found my error and Svalbard seems to fit the picture ... Glad your back !

Duffy

Not entirely, house still not sold.

Anyway, I was wondering if a program would help which would accept a time and create a map with the lines which shows all points 90 degrees from the sun and moon at that moment? 

Roger

Ideally, a program which would accept a time ... compute longitude of sun and moon ... and compute their longitudes relative to a 1 hour motional transit eg; the sun transits 15 degrees of longitude an hour, a program needs to calculate it's central position ... and it's position 7' 30' ahead and 7' 30' prior to the input time.  Same goes for the moon, which would be a little harder as it's motional transit varies with it's orbital distance.  Such a program would save time and errors !

Duffy

I'll see what I can do. More later.

Roger

[Roger Hunter]

(10-07-2016, 05:33 PM)Roger Hunter Wrote:

(10-07-2016, 05:04 PM)Duffy Wrote:

(10-07-2016, 03:09 PM)Roger Hunter Wrote:

(10-07-2016, 02:26 PM)Duffy Wrote:

(10-07-2016, 02:11 PM)Roger Hunter Wrote: Duffy are you taking the sun's latitude into account? It makes a huge difference in where the 90 degree radius circle falls.

Roger

I did Roger, I've been recording a continuous pattern for several days which suggests an anomaly alternating in daylight and semi-daylight. Combined with other data, I found my error and Svalbard seems to fit the picture ... Glad your back !

Duffy

Not entirely, house still not sold.

Anyway, I was wondering if a program would help which would accept a time and create a map with the lines which shows all points 90 degrees from the sun and moon at that moment? 

Roger

Ideally, a program which would accept a time ... compute longitude of sun and moon ... and compute their longitudes relative to a 1 hour motional transit eg; the sun transits 15 degrees of longitude an hour, a program needs to calculate it's central position ... and it's position 7' 30' ahead and 7' 30' prior to the input time.  Same goes for the moon, which would be a little harder as it's motional transit varies with it's orbital distance.  Such a program would save time and errors !

Duffy

I'll see what I can do. More later.

Roger

Can you post a couple of samples with the correct answers to use as test cases?

I need date and time (UTC) for each.

Roger

[Roger Hunter]

(10-07-2016, 05:54 PM)Roger Hunter Wrote:

(10-07-2016, 05:33 PM)Roger Hunter Wrote:

(10-07-2016, 05:04 PM)Duffy Wrote:

(10-07-2016, 03:09 PM)Roger Hunter Wrote:

(10-07-2016, 02:26 PM)Duffy Wrote: I did Roger, I've been recording a continuous pattern for several days which suggests an anomaly alternating in daylight and semi-daylight. Combined with other data, I found my error and Svalbard seems to fit the picture ... Glad your back !

Duffy

Not entirely, house still not sold.

Anyway, I was wondering if a program would help which would accept a time and create a map with the lines which shows all points 90 degrees from the sun and moon at that moment? 

Roger

Ideally, a program which would accept a time ... compute longitude of sun and moon ... and compute their longitudes relative to a 1 hour motional transit eg; the sun transits 15 degrees of longitude an hour, a program needs to calculate it's central position ... and it's position 7' 30' ahead and 7' 30' prior to the input time.  Same goes for the moon, which would be a little harder as it's motional transit varies with it's orbital distance.  Such a program would save time and errors !

Duffy

I'll see what I can do. More later.

Roger

Can you post a couple of samples with the correct answers to use as test cases?

I need date and time (UTC) for each.

Roger

Program is running.

Need test data please.

Roger

[Duffy]

(10-07-2016, 11:03 PM)Roger Hunter Wrote:

(10-07-2016, 05:54 PM)Roger Hunter Wrote:

(10-07-2016, 05:33 PM)Roger Hunter Wrote:

(10-07-2016, 05:04 PM)Duffy Wrote:

(10-07-2016, 03:09 PM)Roger Hunter Wrote: Not entirely, house still not sold.

Anyway, I was wondering if a program would help which would accept a time and create a map with the lines which shows all points 90 degrees from the sun and moon at that moment? 

Roger

Ideally, a program which would accept a time ... compute longitude of sun and moon ... and compute their longitudes relative to a 1 hour motional transit eg; the sun transits 15 degrees of longitude an hour, a program needs to calculate it's central position ... and it's position 7' 30' ahead and 7' 30' prior to the input time.  Same goes for the moon, which would be a little harder as it's motional transit varies with it's orbital distance.  Such a program would save time and errors !

Duffy

I'll see what I can do. More later.

Roger

Can you post a couple of samples with the correct answers to use as test cases?

I need date and time (UTC) for each.

Roger

Program is running.

Need test data please.

Roger

I'll put something together for you today, should be in a new thread by 21:00 ut.

Duffy