[Duffy]

Roger;

Power still not stable, I used a different device but it wouldn't let me access new posts ... sorry about that.

It is the latter that applies, the locations are only temporary because signal source identified them as being in the lateral paths of the sun and moon, at the time the signal was detected.  If my interpretation of results from independent tests is correct, any connection before the 16th Jan or after 28th Jan is "random".   This is why I have been suggesting we do the exact same test again and again, until we have a better idea of its meaning.   If we use the results from this test as the standard, and compare further tests against it, we should be able to establish proper odds in the future.  You have to remember, I am testing a genuine source as far as I am concerned, but from your point of view I could be picking numbers out of a hat. These locations are random until testing proves otherwise.  If future results match or exceed the standard, we can conclude this source has no significance, and this is why I requested you pick the next numbers (due in 2 days!) so the test is not seen to be in my favour.  Chance says I put 24 crosses on a map and got the results posted, we are trying to determine if this is always so ... or are my crosses there because they have correlation with earthquakes !

You could still test all quakes between the 16th and 28th Jan (as stated in the table) to see if your results match mine.


Duffy

[Roger Hunter]

(02-12-2017, 09:07 PM)Duffy Wrote: Roger;

Power still not stable, I used a different device but it wouldn't let me access new posts ... sorry about that.

It is the latter that applies, the locations are only temporary because signal source identified them as being in the lateral paths of the sun and moon, at the time the signal was detected.  If my interpretation of results from independent tests is correct, any connection before the 16th Jan or after 28th Jan is "random".   This is why I have been suggesting we do the exact same test again and again, until we have a better idea of its meaning.   If we use the results from this test as the standard, and compare further tests against it, we should be able to establish proper odds in the future.  You have to remember, I am testing a genuine source as far as I am concerned, but from your point of view I could be picking numbers out of a hat. These locations are random until testing proves otherwise.  If future results match or exceed the standard, we can conclude this source has no significance, and this is why I requested you pick the next numbers (due in 2 days!) so the test is not seen to be in my favour.  Chance says I put 24 crosses on a map and got the results posted, we are trying to determine if this is always so ... or are my crosses there because they have correlation with earthquakes !

You could still test all quakes between the 16th and 28th Jan (as stated in the table) to see if your results match mine.


Duffy

[Duffy]

Thanks Roger, unfortunately the results don't match. I'll look into it tomorrow.


Duffy

[Roger Hunter]

(02-12-2017, 09:54 PM)Duffy Wrote: Thanks Roger, unfortunately the results don't match. I'll look into it tomorrow.


Duffy

Duffy;

Correction; I forgot to reset the moon band to +/- 1 degree

New file attached.

Roger

[Duffy]

Roger

Your first file showed 7 sun hits and 2 moon hits, you altered perimeters for the moon and your second file reads as 5 sun hits and 6 moon hits ... what happened to the 2 previously recorded sun hits ?.   The following is my sun hit list between 16th - 28th Jan ...

16th Jan M 5.8 Vanuatu .............................. 01:16:38 ut ... CS 163' 16' E ( 163' 59' E - 12th Jan )
17th Jan M 5.1 Vanuatu .............................. 01:17:49 ut ... CS 163' 03' E ( 163' 59' E - 12th Jan )
18th Jan M 5.7 Central Italy ........................ 10:14:10 ut ... CS   29' 05' E (   28' 53' E - 15th Jan )
18th Jan M 5.6 Central Italy ........................ 10:25:25 ut ... CS   26' 16' E (   25' 36' E -  7th Jan )
19th Jan M 5.0 West Indian Antarctic Ridge . 10:15:57 ut ... CS   28' 43' E (   28' 53' E - 15th Jan )
21st Jan M 5.2 New Britain Region P.N.G. .... 01:52:32 ut ... CS 154' 41' E ( 154' 29' E - 18th Jan )
21st Jan M 5.7 Halmahera, Indonesia .......... 05:16:31 ut ... CS 103' 42' E ( 103' 22' E - 10th Jan )
21st Jan M 5.0 Banda Sea ........................... 06:30:49 ut ... CS  85' 08' E (   85' 34' E - 18th Jan )
23rd Jan M 5.1 Northern Mid-Atlantic Ridge . 10:17:15 ut ... CS  28' 40' E (   28' 53' E -  15th Jan )
24th Jan M 5.0 South Georgia Island Region  02:38:40 ut ... CS 143' 21' E ( 144' 11' E - 15th Jan )


16th to 28th Jan = 10 sun hits

I have used NEIC records and http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/Earth to determine these times and locations.  In each case, the sun is within +/- 1 degree of the bearings posted in the table. I can only conclude that either the formilab data is wrong, or you have a bug in your program.   If it is the latter, and is giving unreliable results over such a short period, it would also be fair to assume the 1973 run is also in question !  

I used the same source of information as you did, perhaps you should check my source to confirm we are not miss-understanding my results as being due to human error.


Duffy

[Roger Hunter]

(02-13-2017, 12:57 PM)Duffy Wrote: Roger

Your first file showed 7 sun hits and 2 moon hits, you altered perimeters for the moon and your second file reads as 5 sun hits and 6 moon hits ... what happened to the 2 previously recorded sun hits ?.   The following is my sun hit list between 16th - 28th Jan ...

16th Jan M 5.8 Vanuatu .............................. 01:16:38 ut ... CS 163' 16' E ( 163' 59' E - 12th Jan )
17th Jan M 5.1 Vanuatu .............................. 01:17:49 ut ... CS 163' 03' E ( 163' 59' E - 12th Jan )
18th Jan M 5.7 Central Italy ........................ 10:14:10 ut ... CS   29' 05' E (   28' 53' E - 15th Jan )
18th Jan M 5.6 Central Italy ........................ 10:25:25 ut ... CS   26' 16' E (   25' 36' E -  7th Jan )
19th Jan M 5.0 West Indian Antarctic Ridge . 10:15:57 ut ... CS   28' 43' E (   28' 53' E - 15th Jan )
21st Jan M 5.2 New Britain Region P.N.G. .... 01:52:32 ut ... CS 154' 41' E ( 154' 29' E - 18th Jan )
21st Jan M 5.7 Halmahera, Indonesia .......... 05:16:31 ut ... CS 103' 42' E ( 103' 22' E - 10th Jan )
21st Jan M 5.0 Banda Sea ........................... 06:30:49 ut ... CS  85' 08' E (   85' 34' E - 18th Jan )
23rd Jan M 5.1 Northern Mid-Atlantic Ridge . 10:17:15 ut ... CS  28' 40' E (   28' 53' E -  15th Jan )
24th Jan M 5.0 South Georgia Island Region  02:38:40 ut ... CS 143' 21' E ( 144' 11' E - 15th Jan )


16th to 28th Jan = 10 sun hits

I have used NEIC records and http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/Earth to determine these times and locations.  In each case, the sun is within +/- 1 degree of the bearings posted in the table. I can only conclude that either the formilab data is wrong, or you have a bug in your program.   If it is the latter, and is giving unreliable results over such a short period, it would also be fair to assume the 1973 run is also in question !  

I used the same source of information as you did, perhaps you should check my source to confirm we are not miss-understanding my results as being due to human error.


Duffy

Duffy;

Thank you, this is exactly what I need to check my results.

Would you also send the moon hits for comparison?

As I said, in order to check my program, I need to know the right answers

Roger

[Duffy]

Roger;

I am having to post remotely because my home broadband has failed, I'll post the moon data when I can access it.

Could you please send me your time and date selection so I can prepare the test for tomorrow.  Just to recap, I need 9 dates between 1st - 23rd Feb, and 12 times, so three of these dates need to have two different times with them ... are we still good to go on this ?


Duffy

[Roger Hunter]

(02-14-2017, 10:05 AM)Duffy Wrote: Roger;

I am having to post remotely because my home broadband has failed, I'll post the moon data when I can access it.

Could you please send me your time and date selection so I can prepare the test for tomorrow.  Just to recap, I need 9 dates between 1st - 23rd Feb, and 12 times, so three of these dates need to have two different times with them ... are we still good to go on this ?


Duffy

Dufy;

I'm sorry but family matters have prevented me from doing anything lately.

I don't know when things are going to settle down but until they do I'll be out of the game.

Shouldn't be too much more I hope.

Roger

[Duffy]

Roger

We have conversed through all 11 days of the original test, and then spent the last 20 days trying to get your 73,000 quakes in 6 seconds program right, so that we can test this hypothesis ... I only needed a few random dates, but I understand family comes first !


Everyone else ... I need 9 random dates between 1st - 23rd Feb, and 12 random times. I need them by 12:00 ut tomorrow (15th Feb), is there anybody game enough to see where this leads ?


Duffy

[Roger Hunter]

(02-14-2017, 07:41 PM)Duffy Wrote: Roger

We have conversed through all 11 days of the original test, and then spent the last 20 days trying to get your 73,000 quakes in 6 seconds program right, so that we can test this hypothesis ... I only needed a few random dates, but I understand family comes first !


Everyone else ... I need 9 random dates between 1st - 23rd Feb, and 12 random times. I need them by 12:00 ut tomorrow (15th Feb), is there anybody game enough to see where this leads ?


Duffy

Duffy;

I'm sorry if f you feel that this effort has been one sided - which indeed it has - but family does indeed come first.

Roger