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Puzzling results - Skywise - 11-16-2015 Quote:Roger said: Hi Roger. Answering your question from elsewhere. Given a random distribution I would expect a bell curve centered on 90 degrees. However, earthquake locations are not distributed randomly. They cluster along plate boundaries. Since most large quakes occur around the Pacific, and looking at a globe you could probably fit a circular ring around the ocean that would cover most of the Ring of Fire, I have a hunch that 127 degrees is close to a distance that would include a larger number of these quakes thus moving the hump from 90. Brian RE: Puzzling results - Island Chris - 11-16-2015 (11-16-2015, 02:48 AM)Skywise Wrote:Quote:Roger, You looked at this a decade or more ago, related to Lowell Whiteside's claim of certain angular distances. I don't think you did exactly what Lowell had done, but found nothing, except maybe a few extra quakes near the edge of the shadow zone (104 deg or something???). I'm not quite sure what you just did, but I suggest you double -check it carefully, and maybe post more detail here so we can help you look for logical breaks. RE: Puzzling results - Roger Hunter - 11-16-2015 (11-16-2015, 02:48 AM)Skywise Wrote: Hi Roger. Answering your question from elsewhere. AHA! You're right. I had expected a random distribution, not taking the effects of distance into account. 3-D visualization is not one of my strong points. On a globe, 90 degrees is the largest radius possible so if quakes were uniformly distributed there would be a bell curve centered on 90 degrees. Since quakes are not uniformly distributed, different peak locations are to be expected and it appears that 127, 128 and 161 are 3 of the best by a large margin. The lack of anything closer than 39 degrees would indicate an error. I'll look into that. Demonstrating it will be difficult. Circles on a map will quickly obscure everything. Any suggestions? Roger RE: Puzzling results - Roger Hunter - 11-16-2015 (11-16-2015, 10:50 AM)Island Chris Wrote:Quote:Roger, You looked at this a decade or more ago, related to Lowell Whiteside's claim of certain angular distances. I don't think you did exactly what Lowell had done, but found nothing, except maybe a few extra quakes near the edge of the shadow zone (104 deg or something???). I'm not quite sure what you just did, but I suggest you double -check it carefully, and maybe post more detail here so we can help you look for logical breaks. Yes I did. This current program relates to Amit Dave's predictions which are based on similar ideas. I don't know how to describe the program logic any better than I already did but it does seem the have a bug or two somewhere. Roger RE: Puzzling results; suggestions wanted - Roger Hunter - 11-17-2015 (11-16-2015, 03:21 PM)Roger Hunter Wrote: Yes I did. This current program relates to Amit Dave's predictions which are based on similar ideas. I want to show that 127/128 degrees is due to the size of the ring of fire as Brian suggested. The only thing I can think of is a map for each main quake with the rings and quakes plotted. This may work visually but doesn't give anything for numerical analysis. Anyone have a better idea? Roger RE: Puzzling results; suggestions wanted - Roger Hunter - 11-19-2015 (11-17-2015, 02:41 AM)Roger Hunter Wrote:(11-16-2015, 03:21 PM)Roger Hunter Wrote: Yes I did. This current program relates to Amit Dave's predictions which are based on similar ideas. Found the error. In counting all quakes for a year I was counting the same quakes repeatedly since mag 7.5+ quakes happen frequently. I changed the program to restart at each new main quake and now the numbers are as expected. The largest number is at 0 degrees. The next largest is at 62 degrees and they taper off from there. I tried maps but just can't get the code right. I'm trying to plot a Mercator projection centered on the main quake's longitude but it just isn't working. Getting old I guess.... Roger |