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RE: A Fair Test 8 / 2 / 2017 - Duffy - 02-11-2017
(02-11-2017, 04:16 PM)Duffy Wrote: Hi Roger
I have worked these numbers, but I don't think they are going to be much help to you.
Number of quakes between 1st - 31st Jan = 152 (EMSC)
Number of locations = 46
Sunrise / Sunset = 44
Dawn / Dusk = 60
I used the 24 locations from the test ... converted the 3 time / dates (posted yesterday) into location making 6. And calculated moon's first and last second (of time) position of furthest North and South, between 11th Jan and 22nd Feb making 16.
Four locations all shared the highest number of sunrise/sunset hits, but these were only 3 hits each !
117' 12' W - 22' 38' S ..... 66' 44' W - 18' 32' S ..... 8' 36' W - 21' 43' S ..... 85' 15' E - 18' 52' N
I used a +/- 1 degree margin, but this was only required in 7 cases, the rest hit the centre of the crosses within 0.25'.
77' 21' W came out on top again with 7 hits.
Sorry ... its not much to work with
Duffy
Roger
The message above is what I sent you today (11th) ... why are you answering in a different thread ?
Duffy
RE: A Fair Test 8 / 2 / 2017 - Roger Hunter - 02-11-2017
(02-11-2017, 06:01 PM)Duffy Wrote:(02-11-2017, 04:16 PM)Duffy Wrote: Hi Roger
I have worked these numbers, but I don't think they are going to be much help to you.
Number of quakes between 1st - 31st Jan = 152 (EMSC)
Number of locations = 46
Sunrise / Sunset = 44
Dawn / Dusk = 60
I used the 24 locations from the test ... converted the 3 time / dates (posted yesterday) into location making 6. And calculated moon's first and last second (of time) position of furthest North and South, between 11th Jan and 22nd Feb making 16.
Four locations all shared the highest number of sunrise/sunset hits, but these were only 3 hits each !
117' 12' W - 22' 38' S ..... 66' 44' W - 18' 32' S ..... 8' 36' W - 21' 43' S ..... 85' 15' E - 18' 52' N
I used a +/- 1 degree margin, but this was only required in 7 cases, the rest hit the centre of the crosses within 0.25'.
77' 21' W came out on top again with 7 hits.
Sorry ... its not much to work with
Duffy
Roger
The message above is what I sent you today (11th) ... why are you answering in a different thread ?
Duffy
Duffy;
I didn't know I was doing that, sorry.
But what I want is a list of date/times to check. Trying to find them in old posts is confusing and error-prone.
Or a list of locations which I assume are sun/moon locations.
Roger
RE: A Fair Test 8 / 2 / 2017 - Duffy - 02-11-2017
Roger
I thought your post of 08:52 pm yesterday was implying you could select a period of time, and two different co-ordinates, then the program would tell you how many hits were recorded in said period. But you didn't know if the answer was right because the numbers involved were to big to check manually i.e. you were not confident the numbers were correct. You never said anything about dates and times .. I have spent my Saturday meticulously going through 152 earthquakes to make sure they remained within 1 degree, so you could check your program against my January results. But what the heck .. I need the practise anyway right !
If you want dates and times and locations, go to the " Joining the seismic dots" thread, and select the fifth post down dated 01-18-2017, 12:35 am. The table at the top of the post is the data I used in the test ... is there anything else you need ?
Duffy
RE: A Fair Test 8 / 2 / 2017 - Roger Hunter - 02-11-2017
(02-11-2017, 07:35 PM)Duffy Wrote: Roger
I thought your post of 08:52 pm yesterday was implying you could select a period of time, and two different co-ordinates, then the program would tell you how many hits were recorded in said period. But you didn't know if the answer was right because the numbers involved were to big to check manually i.e. you were not confident the numbers were correct. You never said anything about dates and times .. I have spent my Saturday meticulously going through 152 earthquakes to make sure they remained within 1 degree, so you could check your program against my January results. But what the heck .. I need the practise anyway right !
If you want dates and times and locations, go to the " Joining the seismic dots" thread, and select the fifth post down dated 01-18-2017, 12:35 am. The table at the top of the post is the data I used in the test ... is there anything else you need ?
Duffy
Duffy;
Yes, that's what I said. The post you mention has 9 different dates and corresponding sun and moon locations. Is this the table you want me to test my program against?
I mentioned date/times because one program takes them and gets sun and moon locations then checks quakes against them.
The other program takes sun and moon locations and tests quakes against them.
Roger
RE: A Fair Test 8 / 2 / 2017 - Duffy - 02-11-2017
Roger;
Yes, please test this table.
Duffy
RE: A Fair Test 8 / 2 / 2017 - Roger Hunter - 02-11-2017
(02-11-2017, 08:17 PM)Duffy Wrote: Roger;
Yes, please test this table.
Duffy
Duffy;
Test results attached.
Signal data from the post is not indented.
Hits are indented and distance from 90 degrees is noted.
Roger
RE: A Fair Test 8 / 2 / 2017 - Roger Hunter - 02-12-2017
(02-11-2017, 09:39 PM)Roger Hunter Wrote:(02-11-2017, 08:17 PM)Duffy Wrote: Roger;
Yes, please test this table.
Duffy
Duffy;
Test results attached.
Signal data from the post is not indented.
Hits are indented and distance from 90 degrees is noted.
Roger
Duffy;
What are we testing here?
Are these geographic locations sensitive in and of themselves so date/time is not important and I can test ALL quakes against them?
Or are these points sensitive temporarily because the sun and moon were there at a particular time and only quakes in that time period can be used?
Because if it's the latter then we'll never be able to establish proper odds. The samples will be too small.
Roger
RE: A Fair Test 8 / 2 / 2017 - Duffy - 02-12-2017
Roger
A winter storm keeps knocking my power off, I'll get back to you when it is stable.
Duffy
RE: A Fair Test 8 / 2 / 2017 - Duffy - 02-12-2017
Roger
The following table is the one I used in the test, it includes dates, times and locations. I used a +/- 1 degree margin of longitude, for the sun and moon position from the geocentric point of the locations. The margin for geocentric point to sunrise/sunset bands is 0.75 degrees.
4th Jan 19:54 ut ... CS 117' 12' W - 22' 38' S
CM 40' 19' W - 1' 23' S
6th Jan 01:41 ut ... CS 156' 12' E - 22' 29' S
CM 112' 06' W - 4' 08' N
6th Jan 08:28 ut ... CS 54' 29' E - 22' 27' S
CM 149' 38' E - 21' 52' S
7th Jan 10:24 ut ... CS 25' 36' E - 22' 19' S
CM 134' 20' E - 9' 55' N
10th Jan 15:26 ut ... CS 49' 35' W - 21' 52' S
CM 103' 22' E - 18' 34' N
12th Jan 13:14 ut ... CS 16' 23' W - 21' 33' S
CM 163' 59' E - 18' 06' N
15th Jan 00:26 ut ... CS 175' 50' E - 21' 07' S
CM 28' 53' E - 11' 39' N
15th Jan 17:19 ut ... CS 77' 21' W - 20' 59' S
CM 144' 11' E - 9' 04' N
18th Jan 18:54 ut ... CS 100' 51' W - 20' 23' S
CM 154' 29' E - 3' 10' S
18th Jan 23:38 ut ... CS 171' 50' W - 20' 20' S
CM 85' 34' E - 3' 55' S
24th Jan 13:52 ut ... CS 24' 57' W - 19' 04' S
CM 66' 48' W - 18' 32' S
25th Jan 09:01 ut ... CS 47' 50' E - 18' 52' S
CM 15' 25' E - 18' 54' S
......................................................................
Sun ............... 10
Moon ............. 4
Sunrise .......... 6
Sunset ........... 5
Quakes .......... 46
period ............ 11 days, 1 hour, 18 minutes, 5 seconds
Date of test .... 00:01 ut 16th Jan - 01:19:05 ut 28th Jan (new moon)
The rest of my results are dusk/dawn which you are not able to test yet.
Duffy
RE: A Fair Test 8 / 2 / 2017 - Roger Hunter - 02-12-2017
(02-12-2017, 07:00 PM)Duffy Wrote: Roger
The following table is the one I used in the test, it includes dates, times and locations. I used a +/- 1 degree margin of longitude, for the sun and moon position from the geocentric point of the locations. The margin for geocentric point to sunrise/sunset bands is 0.75 degrees.
4th Jan 19:54 ut ... CS 117' 12' W - 22' 38' S
CM 40' 19' W - 1' 23' S
6th Jan 01:41 ut ... CS 156' 12' E - 22' 29' S
CM 112' 06' W - 4' 08' N
6th Jan 08:28 ut ... CS 54' 29' E - 22' 27' S
CM 149' 38' E - 21' 52' S
7th Jan 10:24 ut ... CS 25' 36' E - 22' 19' S
CM 134' 20' E - 9' 55' N
10th Jan 15:26 ut ... CS 49' 35' W - 21' 52' S
CM 103' 22' E - 18' 34' N
12th Jan 13:14 ut ... CS 16' 23' W - 21' 33' S
CM 163' 59' E - 18' 06' N
15th Jan 00:26 ut ... CS 175' 50' E - 21' 07' S
CM 28' 53' E - 11' 39' N
15th Jan 17:19 ut ... CS 77' 21' W - 20' 59' S
CM 144' 11' E - 9' 04' N
18th Jan 18:54 ut ... CS 100' 51' W - 20' 23' S
CM 154' 29' E - 3' 10' S
18th Jan 23:38 ut ... CS 171' 50' W - 20' 20' S
CM 85' 34' E - 3' 55' S
24th Jan 13:52 ut ... CS 24' 57' W - 19' 04' S
CM 66' 48' W - 18' 32' S
25th Jan 09:01 ut ... CS 47' 50' E - 18' 52' S
CM 15' 25' E - 18' 54' S
......................................................................
Sun ............... 10
Moon ............. 4
Sunrise .......... 6
Sunset ........... 5
Quakes .......... 46
period ............ 11 days, 1 hour, 18 minutes, 5 seconds
Date of test .... 00:01 ut 16th Jan - 01:19:05 ut 28th Jan (new moon)
The rest of my results are dusk/dawn which you are not able to test yet.
Duffy
Duffy;
Please answer my last post.
Roger