(02-12-2015, 09:37 PM)Roger Hunter Wrote:

(02-12-2015, 05:33 PM)Duffy Wrote: I have some data here that Roger may find useful, of the 18 PQ's from 2014 I recorded, and taking as many variables as I could think of into account, they have been reduced to 7 very credible signals. The others were to close to weather patterns, human error and Solar activity etc, so I shall list the positives (all are mag 6+) as Date, Time and Duration of signal as follows.........Sun 12th Jan,,11:20 UT,,115 mins.........Tues 1st april,,07:50 UT,,70 mins.........Tues 22nd April,,09:10 UT,,65 mins.........Fri 13th June,,13:47 UT,,50 mins.........Sun 6th July,,09:01 UT,,123 mins.........Fri 14th Nov,,12:30 UT,,62 mins.........Sun 7th Dec,,10:48 UT,,145 mins.

If Roger wants to let me know location and magnitude, I can confirm my list has possible verification data in the future.

Yes indeed. I checked the quake catalog for mag 6+ quakes in 2014 against your list and found that in every case there was a quake within a day or less following the signals.

The problem is that there were 156 such quakes in the list so just about any date you pick will have one in the next day or so.

It's nat something that will fly without better results. #2 was a mag 8.2. Was there anything special about that signal?

Quote:Now, I'm sorry if I seem to be a bit of a joker, and leg puller but thats my nature, I realise it's early days here, so as long as I've shown this project is worth following, I'll try to behave myself, for now. So appologies to Roger for being sartirical about his big words (I've now bought a Dictionary)

Not a problem. I've done a lot worse.

Roger

(02-18-2015, 02:51 PM)Roger Hunter Wrote: Hi Duffy;

Good to hear from you again, I was afraid we had scared you off!

The images are interesting, more to Brian than me as I have no experience with them.

If you're willing to be tested, all I need is a date/time in advance.
I'll match them with quakes and see if the hits are of high enough significance to warrant further investigation.

The program is already written so all I need is input data. By the end of the year you'll know whether to shut it down or start writing grant proposals. Chris can help you with that. It's his source of income.

Roger

(03-02-2015, 12:11 PM)Island Chris Wrote: Hi Duffy

I've tried to keep up with your posts, but originally skipped your long ones with lots of graphs because I was working on a proposal. Then, yesterday and just now, I tried to read that double post but the graphics are not showing:

http://www.earthwaves.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=194&pid=633&mode=threaded

I just get "" etc.
I just tried it with Firefox also, same thing.

The graphics showed up when originally posted. It is likely something with my settings. But, not worth doing anything about unless this is not showing for anyone (e.g., for Brian and Roger).

It might be useful to have some criteria for an earthquake signal, and then graph these against M6+ quake occurrence (date along horizontal axis, both signals and quake by magnitude on vertical axis). I imagine that this would not be easy or not possible, if it is a bit of a complicated art form to choose signals. If you, or Brian, or Roger do such a graph, best to do a new thread, as this one is getting too long.

Another 15 cm of snow last night; we have lass than half of what Boston has, but we are catching up.

Chris

(03-02-2015, 10:55 PM)Duffy Wrote: Hi Chris;

Nice to finally meet you,

Unfortunately, in your absence, I may have rocked the boat a little, so the images have probably fallen overboard. I've relegated myself to the dugout (think you guys call it the sin bin) untill I've had the chance to familiarise myself with Earthwaves as a whole.

A graph would be the way to go if a criteria or standard could be found to establish, what is a 6 or a 7, the problem is the quakes themselves dont appear to stick to a recognizable format. For instance, out of half a dozen images of signals for mag 6+ quakes, you may get 4 with distinctive similarities, the other 2 however, may be off the chart.

I have started a graph of sorts in my office, and a world map with markers etc, but I think the real trick here is visual pattern recognition with the images. Every few months, I place them around the kitchen floor like a roulette table, catagorise them by similarity, and its amazing how close the magnitude differences pan out at.

For this to work though, you have to have sufficiant samples to work with, I recorded a new, unfarmiliar signal at 10:15 UT last Friday morning, (27th) I knew it was definately a sub-terranian EM, and the only thing I could link it to was the mag 7 Flores Sea quake at 13:45 UT. The problem here though is the depth, 552 km, so at the moment this is highly unlikely, but in the future, if I record similar signals, linked to quakes of similar magnitude and depth, well, wouldn't that be something.

I'm rigging up a dual 24/7 monitoring system at the moment, and a couple of experiments that are costing the Earth (pardon the punn), so hopefully I'll have more images to play around with soon.

I've been a bit busy on Earthwaves the past few weeks, and hadn't realised how little attention my family and my astronomy was receiving, so I'm sticking to time/date/ mag predictions at the moment, If I don't take mother-in-law to a fancy restaurant at least once a month, there's no living under this roof .

Did you say snow!, We Brits were wondering when you guys across the pond are going to send some our way, strange temperatures are really confusing the wild life here. By coincidence, my cousin in New York city sent me some pictures of how Central park looked this morning (not as good as your's).

Think I'll go and do some more farmiliarising now, noticed there was a store round here somewhere, might wait untill Black Friday to buy anything though .

Nice talking to you.

Duffy;

(03-02-2015, 12:11 PM)Island Chris Wrote: I tried to read that double post but the graphics are not showing:

http://www.earthwaves.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=194&pid=633&mode=threaded

I just get "" etc.
I just tried it with Firefox also, same thing.

(03-02-2015, 11:10 PM)Roger Hunter Wrote:

(03-02-2015, 10:55 PM)Duffy Wrote: Hi Chris;

Nice to finally meet you,

Unfortunately, in your absence, I may have rocked the boat a little, so the images have probably fallen overboard. I've relegated myself to the dugout (think you guys call it the sin bin) untill I've had the chance to familiarise myself with Earthwaves as a whole.

A graph would be the way to go if a criteria or standard could be found to establish, what is a 6 or a 7, the problem is the quakes themselves dont appear to stick to a recognizable format. For instance, out of half a dozen images of signals for mag 6+ quakes, you may get 4 with distinctive similarities, the other 2 however, may be off the chart.

I have started a graph of sorts in my office, and a world map with markers etc, but I think the real trick here is visual pattern recognition with the images. Every few months, I place them around the kitchen floor like a roulette table, catagorise them by similarity, and its amazing how close the magnitude differences pan out at.

For this to work though, you have to have sufficiant samples to work with, I recorded a new, unfarmiliar signal at 10:15 UT last Friday morning, (27th) I knew it was definately a sub-terranian EM, and the only thing I could link it to was the mag 7 Flores Sea quake at 13:45 UT. The problem here though is the depth, 552 km, so at the moment this is highly unlikely, but in the future, if I record similar signals, linked to quakes of similar magnitude and depth, well, wouldn't that be something.

I'm rigging up a dual 24/7 monitoring system at the moment, and a couple of experiments that are costing the Earth (pardon the punn), so hopefully I'll have more images to play around with soon.

I've been a bit busy on Earthwaves the past few weeks, and hadn't realised how little attention my family and my astronomy was receiving, so I'm sticking to time/date/ mag predictions at the moment, If I don't take mother-in-law to a fancy restaurant at least once a month, there's no living under this roof .

Did you say snow!, We Brits were wondering when you guys across the pond are going to send some our way, strange temperatures are really confusing the wild life here. By coincidence, my cousin in New York city sent me some pictures of how Central park looked this morning (not as good as your's).

Think I'll go and do some more farmiliarising now, noticed there was a store round here somewhere, might wait untill Black Friday to buy anything though .

Nice talking to you.

Duffy;

Duffy;

Make it easier on yourself. Concentrate on just date for now. If we can show a high correlation between your dates and a following quake then it's worth pursuing. No one else has done it. If not then you need a different hobby.

Roger

(03-03-2015, 10:03 PM)Duffy Wrote: Hi Roger;

may I first suggest that we may have got off on the wrong foot here (mine was probably in my mouth) and that we wipe the slate clean and start over. After all, I'm the amature who provides the data, and your the professional who knows how to use it, we could get some good science done here, be a shame to waste it on misunderstandings.

Quote:You may have noted, I mentioned the Flores Sea quake in my last post, well, I recorded another long duration signal from 9:00 UT on sunday (1st March) which displayed another unfamilliar pattern, which I've now linked with the m 6.4 quake near Indonesia this morning (3rd). In both cases I didn't post because the unfamilliarity didn't give me much scope to determine a magnitude, I was trying to maintain my own standard of predictable signals, to emphasize I was using skill and not chance. It would appear further adjustments to the system are still taking it in the right direction, unfortunatlly, with ever change, I have to start over to recognise the patterns again.

Quote:If I read you correctly,and I do in fact have something unique, and of genuine interest, then the time for clowning around as far as this is concerned is over. I'll post the date and time of the EM signal as requested, but if I could make a suggestion here, I've developed a keen eye for detail through astronomy, and I'm 90% sure I can detect any Earth related signals in these recordings (taking the usual variables into account). It might be an idea to post any unidentified signal info, regardless of any magnitude estimate, and if any do result in a positive prediction, may I further suggest, related images be posted in prediction evaluation or informal predictions, so others may have the chance to scrutinise them.

Quote: Hope you find this agreeable, unless you have something else in mind.

Quote:If you are in agreement, I'd like to request a consideration be taken into account during evaluation, I know what this system is capable of, and it has indeed recorded Mag 4's and 5's, but only within a range of 1500km's (Greenland sea, North Atlantic Ridge etc). It has also recorded localised quakes (2.9 Winchester UK, 3.8 Rutland UK etc), and from experiance, I've noted the lower magnitude quakes take longer to arrive, sometimes 4 to 5 days longer. I've speculated that it could have something to do with lower tectonic stress or preasure levels. If a signal isn't corrolated to a 6+ quake after 48 hours, and a lower mag does occur within a 5 day window, in the range specified, would it be feasable to include it in a sub-file, and be re-evaluated at a future time should the need arise ?.

Quote:To chang the subject slightly, I honestly have no idea of what's happened to the missing images, I've only just mastered how to put them on, and didn't know I was able to remove them had I wished to do so. As Brian suggested, I may have somehow done it accidently, I do have a knack of pushing the wrong buttons lately. There was a post the other morning that I replied "I sincerely get the point" but it had gone in the evening, I don't recall its content but maybe the two are linked. Unfortunately, its the same with blogging or facebook, never done them, my wife deals with any of that, I'm a bit old school I'm afraid. Having a new broadband setup this week, so at the first oppotunity, I'll ask my wife to replace them if its possible.

Quote:The M6.4 Indonesian quake I mentioned earlier, its to late for prediction purposses, but I have very good comparable recordings from both monitors if anybody wishes to see sample images, there's also a couple of features that could be related to the Radon debate, I'll post in a new thread if requested.

Quote:Sorry about the novel again Roger, hope its helped to put us on a better footing, as for hobbies, I'm quite happy with the one's I have, but if I did fancy a change, I'd probably try my hand at sailing, I appear to be quite apt at rocking boats and making waves